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May 27, 2024

Rick Gang: CEO And Co-Founder Of Holistic HomeCare Associates On Reinventing Your Business And Industry [Episode 478]

The Voice of Leadership (Podcast & YouTube) /Dr. Karen Speaks Leadership (TV Show and iHeart Radio) | Home Care

The Voice of Leadership (Podcast & YouTube) /Dr. Karen Speaks Leadership (TV Show and iHeart Radio) | Home Care

 

Rick Gang, CEO and co-founder of Holistic HomeCare Associates, leads the way in transforming home care services from Riverdale, New York. Confronting the challenges of finding top-notch caregivers within traditional home care agencies, Holistic HomeCare Associates reimagined the industry. They prioritize family control, ethical practices, and high-quality care woven into every aspect of their process.

With nearly four decades of expertise in home care management, Rick joins Dr. Karen to discuss his business growth journey, emphasizing change, innovation, flexibility, and reinvention. He shares how leveraging technology and outside advisement has delivered exceptional solutions for clients while driving exponential growth and profitability for his company.

Tune in to discover how Rick and his team deliver white-glove service with a deep understanding of the home care landscape, kindness, and a personal touch. Gain valuable executive leadership insights to accelerate success and profitability in your business.

Contact Rick Gang at Holistic HomeCare Associates or call 646-240-4888.

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Rick Gang: CEO And Co-Founder Of Holistic HomeCare Associates On Reinventing Your Business And Industry

A Profitable Business That Serves Clients

When you understand your industry, the needs that most providers do not meet, and the frustrations of the clients who want better service, you are in a position to use your creative advantage to reinvent the industry and transform the client experience and results. Our guest has created a profitable business that serves clients at the highest levels because he saw the landscape and chose to operate in a different way. He shares his secret sauce for building a company that grew 30% during the pandemic and in 2024 saw a 40% increase in profitability. I invite you to read this episode for profitable ideas that you can apply to own business.

Let me tell you about my guest. Rick Gang is the CEO and Cofounder of Holistic HomeCare Associates, based in Riverdale, New York. In 2014, Rick established Holistic HomeCare to ensure that every client receives compassionate and high-quality service. Holistic simplifies the caregiver hiring process, prioritizes family control, and enhances overall quality. Fueled by the chaos of trying to hunt down top-notch caregivers in the jungle of traditional home care agencies, holistic reinvented home care to make hiring a breeze, the family the boss, and choice, control, and quality interwoven into every fiber of the process.

As a seasoned home care expert with nearly four decades of experience in home care management and a BA Degree in Sociology and Political Science as a minor, Rick has a knack for quick and accurate understanding clients’ needs. He and his holistic dream team offer clients top-notch employer support services, enlightenment on all things home care, and empowerment to make informed choices.

Rick ensures that he and his team meet every client with white-glove service, a deep understanding of the home care landscape, kindness, and a smile. When he is not focusing on home care, he also spent time as a deputy sheriff actively engaged in the community and he also parents his three children, River, Sam, and Ryan. Rick, welcome to the show.

Thank you, Dr. Karen. Pleasure to be here with you.

Difference Between Home Care and Home Health Care

It’s a delight to be here with you, and I know we have so much that we can talk about, so we’re just going to launch right in if that’s okay with you. My first question, because some people in the audience may not know about home care. First, give us a little bit of information about that. What is home care? Who needs those services? Is home care the same as home health care?

Home care is services that are brought into the home, typically paraprofessionals, all the way up to clinicians themselves. Home care is typically on a longer term. Whereas, home health is typically people like physical therapy and occupational therapy coming in for short-term, post-incident or fall, or whatever it is that’s needing their short-term services. We’re seeing more of a shift to in-home care of the medical delivery. Home health is also a developing field, but home health care is more of the long-term, some of the paraprofessional companion.

You have home health aides and certified nurses’ aides who are helping with activities of daily living, bathing, dressing, cooking, laundry, all of those activities. That’s the main differences. The services are usually received by anyone who needs any assistance with remaining at home or independent. It can be someone with a long-term chronic illness or a younger person. It can also be the seniors who are living much longer and wanting to remain at home.

Let me make sure I have this straight. Did you say that home care is typically the more long-term solution and home health the shorter-term solution?

Home health is also more the medical.

You can have more paraprofessionals in home care.

Correct.

Thank you. I just wanted to review that because I was thinking maybe I’d heard that incorrectly.

It is a place where there’s a lot of gray crossover. You can have nurses in a home care agency, and home care services provided through RN services. In home health, it would be more of an episodic situation rather than an ongoing relationship.

I think we have the landscape. Tell us a little bit then about who you see as your clients in the business and how you add value to those clients.

In our registry model of home care, we have two clients. We have the families that come to us for care, and we also have the caregivers coming to us looking for work. We act as matchmakers in the home care space. It’s a different model than the traditional licensed agency. Who’s coming to us are families who are looking to hire caregivers. Also, as I said, the caregivers looking for work. It’s our duty to vet the caregivers, and then also match them with the clients as best fits all of the personalities, the skills, the schedules, and all of the nuances. Whether they can play chess, speak French, and are not allergic to the cat.

Social Justice for Caregivers

I love the way you frame it as a matchmaking service of sorts. I know, Rick, that you also have a perspective that says you want to do a form of social justice, if you will, for the caregivers. Talk about that a little bit, and how you benefit the caregivers as a client as well.

It’s a win-win-win. It’s one of those places where, if you can identify a win-win-win and put yourself in that equation, it’s a home run and a guaranteed success. The way that we’ve done that is by having the caregivers work directly for the families. The overhead of my office, I have an internal office of under ten people but yet, I’m able to work with over 500 caregivers. If I were a typical agency, my overhead would be cost-prohibited for me to pay the end user, the caregiver properly. The margins keep getting tighter and tighter.

In our model, the caregivers are able to earn significantly more than their counterpart at the traditional agency. Typical agencies in my region are anywhere from $19 an hour to $22 an hour. We don’t have anyone below $25 an hour. Most of our cases are $30 an hour and up. In that regard, the caregiver is able to secure a higher paying wage. They have the steady, long-term relationship with the employer. They don’t have that turnover that they have at the agency.

That puts us in a position to lift up caregivers and get them into better-paying positions and reward them for their hard work. The family wins because they’re choosing who they want to hire. When they’re employing the aid directly, they can control those tasks as I said before. If you have a family member who has a long-term chronic illness such as Parkinson’s. You may have peg tube feeding or something.

An agency aid is not going to be allowed to handle that. They would require an LPN to come in. When the family employs directly, it’s just as if another family member is there to do that task. That’s another win for the family. We’re able to put ourselves in that equation and make sure all of the employment is done properly. There’s workers’ comp and disability, unemployment insurance, and all the payroll taxes are done properly. It’s a win-win-win. Everyone is happy. That’s the secret sauce that we’ve created here.

That’s a beautiful story because if you think about the people who usually do home care and are often not paid a living wage, this gives them an opportunity to provide for their own families and have a career that has a long-term trajectory to it. The families get to select the people who they want to have and not just have someone from the agency show up and lose control over that.

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Navigating New York’s Complex Home Care Landscape

Yet, all the back-end, back-office stuff that most family members would know how to do, your organization makes sure that that gets taken care of, the insurance, the benefits, and so on. Which brings me to another question, because you’re operating in New York. This is a field that’s regulated. New York can be a tough place in which to work. Say a little bit about how you’ve managed to make it work in New York. You know what they say, if you can do it in New York, you can do it anywhere.

That was one of the reasons I didn’t want to do this business without a business partner, honestly, because of the licensing requirements. I said I need a business partner for this and the universe was very good at that point and introduced me to Anne Sansevero, who’s my cofounder with me.

What we’re talking about is this whole notion of how you’re surviving in New York with all the regulatory demands and just the difficulty of working in New York. Part of the answer, you say, is your cofounder with you. What else is making it work for you?

Leaning into all of the regulations, figuring out how to make New York City’s sticky and overbearing laws fit into best practices so that we can check off the city’s boxes to work under our license that we need to oblige by, but also facilitate everything for the family. Part of it is we also develop software to do the registry model and to manage all of the moving parts. As we’re speaking with other registries nationwide, the rules are just very different and much more friendly to do business.

It’s like what we built it in New York. The only place that’s more challenging probably is California. It’s second to California. If you can do it here, you can do it anywhere because from there, it would be downhill. I didn’t mind jumping through all the hoops. It’s just trying to figure out how you check those boxes and yet still get your mission accomplished. I know other people that have figured out other creative ways. Whether they call themselves an online marketplace or whatnot, but I choose to do things the proper way, go through, and have everything buttoned up.

The proper channels in an innovative way, and you mentioned technology. Share with us a little bit more about how you use technology to do the matchmaking, the back-office part, and how that’s innovative in your industry.

It’s on so many fronts, and I’m not a tech person. Even just the ability for us to go fully remote during the pandemic. During pre-pandemic, I would have told you it would be impossible for me to have any internal staff outside of the New York area. Now, I know that that’s completely erroneous. No one else was supplying the software to match the clients and caregivers, so we wanted to be the eHarmony of clients and caregivers for the registry and home care space.

That’s where we started and we built that. The companies that we were using for payroll, scheduling, and communications were gobbled up by venture capital. One company was closed and condensed into the other, and customer service went downhill. I saw the writing on the wall and decided to lean into the opportunity and build those modules that we needed into our existing software.

It’s just about solving problems, identifying a need, seeing if there’s a solution out there. If not, then I went kicking and screaming into software development, but it’s taking off now. It’s an interesting endeavor. I’m running my registry two years now on it completely. Even if it didn’t sell, I know the money that I’m saving by using it myself pays for it.

Leveraging Technology to Enhance Screening and Vetting

This is phenomenal because this is not your area of expertise, and yet you jumped in at the deep end of the pool, I’m sure with help and partners and so on, to make it happen because you saw the need, and you created the solution for it. That’s part of the secret sauce in your business that you do see the needs, and then you figure out, how can we solve for this? How can we create a solution that is that triple win again? That’s what you’re talking about. Part of your technology, as I recall, even allows you to be unique in how you do your screening, vetting, and matchmaking. Say a little bit more about how the technology helps you to do some things that maybe others are not able to do to get such great matches.

Despite even like some of the regulations in Florida, they don’t want you matching on personalities, but we have to be realistic. If this person is in your home, doing personal care and living with you, you need to make sure that personalities match. This isn’t someone coming to wash your windows. This is someone who’s coming to personally be involved in one’s life, so make sure that match. We’ve come up with the most unusual matches. It’s always worth it. It’s always worth investing the time to make that match, even if it’s not the easiest to make.

These are very personal relationships that we’re facilitating, and software doesn’t eliminate anyone. We have over 500 caregivers in our roster and over 75 RNs. It constantly reshuffles them, so it re-ranks them according to the match. We never wanted to take the human element out of it. We do love technology. We’re leaning into AI, and so far, so good but we never wanted to take the human out of it because the schedulers or whoever it is, is always going to know some detail that the software doesn’t know. It’s important to work smart, not hard, but still have the human touch in it.

Let me ask this, what was it that prompted you to even start Holistic HomeCare? What did you see maybe that was broken in the industry at the time?

I had been doing caregiver placements through my mother’s care management practice. My mother is now a retired nurse. She was one of the founding members of the Aging Life Care Association. The first chapter was in New York in 1985. A group of women, mostly social workers and my mother was one of the few nurses that got together and formed this organization. I grew up managing my mother’s private practice as a nursing-based care management practice.

During those years, we would always screen caregivers for our clients to privately hire, because we saw that that was the best way for them. We had a lot of clients that were running almost medical homes, chronic care conditions, suctioning, and trach. Having highly skilled caregivers who are able to do those things was always important. After twenty years, I had amassed about 200 caregivers that I had just constantly rolling through and getting placed on cases. We would do their background check, and then we would open an ADP payroll account.

After my mother retired, I continued to run the practice a few years and was then looking to hand off some of the Manhattan cases to Anne Sansevero. She said, “Rick, what are you going to do after you wind down the practice?” I said, “I don’t know, Anne, but I’m ready for a break out of care management and getting the 3:00 AM calls that Mrs. Smith is going to the emergency room, and it’s time to get the power of attorney on the phone.”

My life had done that for twenty years, and was ready for a little bit of change. Anne knew I had 200 caregivers, and she said, “Why don’t we open a registry together?” I said, “That I’ll do,” because I was always ready to do it, I just needed a partner. I said, “Are you willing to do that?” She said, “Yes, because I can’t get good caregivers for my clients.” This is an opportunity for my clients, my business, and for her as well. That’s when we decided to join forces and officially kick off.

That’s another opportunity as a win-win, so to speak, that’s in more than one direction, the two of you coming together, having been out there separately, knowing of each other and interfacing, and now partnering together. Let’s talk about that a little bit. I know that business partners is not always perfect. You got to figure out like in marriage as husband and wife, how you’re going to make this thing work. Talk a little bit about that and a little bit about Anne’s role also with ALCA, the professional organization that your mother was very involved in, how she’s connected with that as well, and how that relates to what you do day-to-day.

I see an EIN, Employer Identification Number, for any business almost like a Social Security number for a child. It is a marriage. We are stewards of this young life that we need to cultivate and help mature. Anne and I are very different personalities. Anyone who meets us I think realizes that. It’s also one of our strengths that we are different. It was not always easy in communication and getting to figure out each other’s style, but I think it’s a good balance. Having different personalities makes the business itself stronger.

Anne has a thriving care management practice in Manhattan called Health Sense, where she has several nurses and a social worker under her. She will refer clients as appropriate. If a client has a policy that won’t reimburse for this model of home care, she refers to agency models, or she’ll refer to multiple. That’s one of the things about ALCA, Aging Life Care Association, the ethics and the standards of everything are very impressive. I haven’t seen another professional organization that has such dedication to professional ethics, which is refreshing, especially nowadays.

It’s good to have those ethics in place. The two of you have figured out how to divide the responsibility, so to speak. What are some examples of what Anne does versus what you do and how it all comes together?

I’m more involved in the day-to-day operations, and less and less over 2024, as we promoted our manager to our director of operations. I was able to step out of the day-to-day operations and more into running the business. Whatever the saying is, spending time developing the business instead of running the business. That and the software takes up most of my time. Anne is very busy with her care management practice, referring clients who may need services, her role with ALCA, and her other various endeavors.

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One way of thinking about it, I see Anne as if she’s down on the street level, so to speak, seeing what’s going on, who might need things, having the connections and the relationships with people in the industry to know where the referrals can come from, and so on. You’ve got your operations person in the middle, doing the day-to-day of running the business. You’re in more of a strategic oversight role. Looking at what the business needs in an overarching sense is what I’m hearing in how you describe that.

Building also those relationships. I did several conferences and 2 to 3 networking events a week. I don’t know what hat I’m ever wearing, whether I’m wearing my Holistic Home Care hat, the software hat, or the connector hat. Either one always turns out to be fruitful in one capacity or another, and they’re always good when they’re mixing.

It’s good to have a diversity of skills and abilities that you can bring to the process.

Even if the worst thing I do is connect someone, that’s still a wonderful thing.

That’s a skill, by the way, connecting people. I consider that a skill. When you’re building this business, and you mentioned having ten people and so on and so forth. It can be challenging sometimes to get the right people on the team. We talked about you and your co-founder and the two of you figuring out the best optics and ways to work together. What about getting your team together? What have you faced? What have you had to do in order to get the right people?

It’s been a learning process, and it’s definitely changed over the ten years as well. We’ve been very blessed with a good internal team, and I’ve been a part of the hiring of each and every one. I do feel that I am a good read on people. I did have an unfortunate experience of being ghosted by a young person who started and then disappeared, but that’s the trend now. I know I’m not alone in that but finding the right people, complimenting them and paying accolades when they do a good job, compensating them appropriately, and having good communication is critical.

My personal assistant was also our first employee. She’s been with us for years. She’s in her 70s and she works as many hours as I do. I can’t sing her accolades enough. I think finding the right people who can grow with you and who believe in the mission and vision and internalize it because then it’s no longer employer-employee. It’s a bigger mission.

It is like a partnership of sorts, and that values-mission fit is important to creating the right culture. We all run into people who we think fit but don’t. What experience have you had with maybe having to make some shifts? Maybe somebody wasn’t the right fit.

Even as the company grew, there’s sometimes resistance to growth. They say, “We’ve been doing it this way all this long,” and presenting the potential negatives from their perspective. If there’s ultimately just resistance, and that’s what we had in this one case. It seems our mission and vision have separated. It was just a very easy conversation. He said, “In all honesty, I want to go back to producing shows,” which is his former career. It’s fine. Everyone is in their time and place as it’s right and feels right. Sometimes it’s okay to also just separate. I think as long as people are in good communication about it so that it’s not that quiet quitting perspective, but just a dialogue of what your current interests.

It doesn’t mean that the people are bad people. They may have served their season in the business, let’s say. Maybe there’s something else that they’re more passionate about at this time. Perhaps there’s a better place for them to go. The business has changed. All of these things. We just change chairs and seats when that happens.

Remain respectful of and willing to see the good in the other person, even if they’ve moved on to something else. That’s critical. I mentioned earlier, Rick, that your company grew during the pandemic, when a lot of people were freaked out about it. Talk about that a little bit. What were some of the factors that enabled growth at such a difficult time?

It was a challenging time. Nothing prepared any of us for what was coming. I was just looking through my old cell phone pictures and saw a picture of March 25, 2020, where I had my desk and my chair on the roof of my car going home from my final day here in the office and figuring out how to navigate the changing climate. At one point, it was that caregivers needed IDs when there was a curfew. All of these curveballs. How do we go remote? How does the team function? How do we get people to cases? Most of the cases were transitioning to live-in. We didn’t want people traveling.

The lower amount of people in and out of a household was ideal. We pivoted. We did a lot of live-in. We worked with a financial coach, who helped us see, in live time that we needed to also adjust the rates for the live-in because that was a smaller segment of our business, and the margins were lower. We were losing the hourly, which was the better service line. We did a price change live real-time without having to look back at the quarter going, “What happened? Why did our profits drop?”

Having gurus in their sectors, being able to consult, has also been a part of the success. I think during the pandemic people did not want to be in a facility. Home care was the natural choice. People were not able to travel or be with their loved ones, or not necessarily able to relocate. That was just the growth in home care in general. We’ve had growth year after year. The pandemic certainly accelerated that, but we haven’t let off either.

I think as people call this the silver tsunami that’s coming, rumors that are, I think, by 2030, the population that’s going to be over 65. It’s tremendous. It’s important for those people that are doing quality care or services in general for this population, just be tried, true, and professional. There’s a lot of noise in the industry as all the Wall Street reports show, the demographics moving into this area. There’s a lot of venture capital and other motives moving into this sector. It’s important to identify those that are the true practitioners.

I want to get back to that in a second, but I want to ask you first about the other kinds of flexibility and agility you had to have during the pandemic. What are some of the things you’ve carried over into the post-pandemic world that you mentioned about even working remotely and how you didn’t even think that would be possible. Share a little bit about what you’ve learned about that and what you’re doing now that maybe you wouldn’t have done before and it’s working.

The fact that I didn’t think I could hire people outside of New York City. If they couldn’t get to my office daily, we could meet through Google Teams and Meets, a Google meeting. Our team meets daily and the Google chat going daily and constantly having video meetings. We do host times for our team to get together as well so that hat we do have in-person time, and it’s not completely lost. There is some balance that does need to exist. We use Monday.com as a custom CRM that we’ve built. There’s a lot of tools that and having good consultants available to help us devise this on the fly. It’s been a game changer.

I think if I remember correctly, you even have a tree office.

I do. During COVID, I worked the first twelve months in my garage, and then I spent sixteen months in a 30-foot camper trailer that I converted the front bedroom into an office. The town told me that they were going to fine me if I didn’t remove it. I started building a treehouse office. It’s 14×14. It’s got insulation, air conditioning, heat, and has a full bathroom shower. It’s a little bit more than difficult. It’s like a little house up in a tree.

That’s what I would call an executive treehouse office. The point is, you made it work. That’s what I’m highlighting. To create an office of that type so you could work remotely and get everything done is pretty creative and innovative as well. I just wanted to throw that in because I thought that was pretty cool.

It’s a neat story because it was making lemonade out of lemons. I had bought all the wood for the treehouse. For our first COVID Thanksgiving, it was going to be my outside little gazebo. My neighbor called the town, the same one who called on the camper, and they put a stop-work order. I had all this lumber, and this was early in COVID, so before lumber went very expensive. I took all the wood to where I have some property, and I built a treehouse office. At that point, lumber was through the roof, and I couldn’t afford probably all the lumber that I had already purchased at that point. I’m just trying to lean into positivity and making lemonade out of lemons sometimes.

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I think that’s a great success strategy. One of the other things I wanted to ask you about is that you mentioned a number of times that you had some consultants and advisors who came in to help you. We all know that no one does this work alone, especially because some of the consultants and advisors had areas of expertise that were different from yours. I know that you work with a good colleague of mine, Paul Meinardus, who was your business and financial coach. Tell us about that. What did Paul do? How did he help you achieve all of these stellar results?

One of the great things about this is we can tap people to be like a virtual CFO. You don’t need a CFO for 40 hours a week necessarily or maybe fifteen hours a week makes sense. That’s where Paul has come in. I call him our virtual CFO. He’s our business strategy advisor and as I said, that was during the pandemic. It was Paul who said, “If all your business is going live-in, we need to adjust rates.” He’s helped us with revenue modeling and identify attributes of the business that I didn’t think were possible. The cost of goods sold. We know our real margins now on each service line.

I had a friend of mine who was involved with Five Guys Burgers, and I used to see him as a manager on his laptop. You could see 500 large fries have been sold by 11:00, and 1,800 Pepsis or whatever, in live time. I feel like I’ve almost now got that live-time statistics on my business. It’s amazing to have that intricate knowledge and the pulse on the real true bottom line and all the moving parts of the business. Paul’s been instrumental in setting all of that up. We still meet with him continuously and look at all of our strengths, weaknesses, and opportunities. We go over our SWOT and all of the critical success factors.

It sounds like in one of the benefits that you’ve derived from having a consultant like that, someone who’s an advisor, is they help you to think about things you wouldn’t think of on your own, so that there are greater possibilities for the business and greater ways to increase revenues that you wouldn’t have thought of, and maybe too late and where it would have cost you a lot. There’s also the part of speed of getting the information that you wouldn’t have. Also, making it streamlined so that you can manage and run the business in real time, see things coming before they hit, and avert disasters at the same time.

We don’t know what we don’t know. We’re experts in what we are experts in, and having the ability to tap experts. One of Paul’s colleagues at Wide Awake Business is Carrie Burggraf. She’s been helping us with sales coaching. I can’t even put words to the impact that it’s had. I’ve been working with her directly. She’s been the one who’s been helping me get out and push into all of that. I’m not a salesperson. I can educate and speak to this all day, but I don’t have the questions loaded in my mind. I don’t have necessarily all of the marketing stuff figured out, but she’s got it. She’s like Paul, willing to teach it and enjoys seeing people live it and do it.

It’s a huge difference for you, having those advisors and consultants around you who care about you and the business and want to see you be successful. If you could even imagine or guess, where do you think you would be without them?

We would not be here.

Those partnerships have made a difference to you being where you are now and enjoying the success that you’re enjoying. A lot of people are reluctant to consult an advisor, a coach, or a consultant along the way. What would you say to those business leaders out there, maybe to encourage them, the ones who haven’t experienced the value of real outside counsel?

I make introductions for Paul, Carrie, and other people on their team all the time. I almost see it as my duty to let other people know that they don’t have to do it all. There’s a home care agency owner in Manhattan that I’m good friends with. He does a great job. He has a great business, but he won’t let anyone in his office, except for him, speak with new clients. I get it. I understand the quality control need.

One of the things that I had to embrace was you just need to expect 80% of what you would do in your delegation. That’s enough. I’ve been fortunate to have it, and I know his team can do it. I want to role model for him and even help him stay accountable because I’ve had the help. I feel like it’s one of those things where it’s like, “This is possible. You can step out.”

I think it’s one of my greatest self-accomplishments, retrospectively. I didn’t even realize this but it wasn’t my intention, but, God forbid, if I get hit by a bus, the company is still up and running because I’ve stepped out of the day-to-day. Not everyone needs to speak to Rick. That’s something that I’m realizing that it’s neat.

That’s an important outcome, being able to have the business have longevity even beyond you. You’re facilitating succession. You’re facilitating the legacy, and that good work continues for the clients, both sets of clients that you’re talking about who benefit from your services. That’s an important outcome also in addition to everything else that we’ve been talking about. I hope that those who are reading out there will realize you can go farther, faster, and to better places sometimes when you get others with expertise to come in to partner with you, work with you, and help you see what you don’t see by yourself.

That’s an important point. I’m glad that you mentioned those people from Wide Awake Business who made a difference in your experience. You were talking about the kinds of people that are coming into the home care industry now because they can see that this can be a profitable business. However, they may not have the same values in place. They may be more wired toward, let’s say, shareholder value and a venture capital situation or whatever. Talk a little bit about who these other players are. I don’t mean by name, but the kinds of players that are in the marketplace and how you are different from what they do.

The Benefits of a Boutique Concierge

There’s a lot of big players. There are national franchises and chains. We are more of a mom-and-pop shop, a boutique, and concierge-type of service. There are excellent franchises. There are excellent models. The gentleman I was mentioning in Manhattan has a great outfit. He came from Wall Street. He retired out of Wall Street and wanted to start a business. We’ve come from all different backgrounds. For several people, it was a family situation, whether a nurse or whatever. It’s an interesting mix of who comes to the industry.

It sounds like there’s more than one way to do a great job coming to the industry. Not everyone who does it differently is necessarily doing it poorly.

To tell you, we get phone calls where people say, “We’re happy you answered your phones.” That’s how my barometer is showing me the volume of places that are opening quality that they’re not even answering their phones. To identify who the quality people are, make sure you can get an owner or manager on the phone, and understand their mission and vision. Did they just buy a franchise? Have they been in this industry for a long time?

I think those things will be very evident once you get someone on the phone who’s willing to have a conversation. If not, that’s probably indicative of what quality you can expect. We all can agree that when you can get the owner of the business on the phone. You’re going to have a very different experience than if you have a regional manager or something else. Having local boots on the ground, where you can check references and make sure that their passion and empathy is matching your values.

To your families, the ones who work with you and the caregivers, what would you say is the reason that they prefer to work with your company? What do you do to educate your clients? We all know that educating our clients is important. How do you handle educating them? Why do they prefer your organization versus some of the others?

It’s the choice and control that they have in choosing who the caregiver is and what those tasks are and understanding that we then do the full service to make sure that all the administrative burden is eased. A lot of places you hear of a caregiver shortage, where people don’t have caregivers. That’s not one of the items that affects us. We have a waiting list of caregivers to onboard and register with us because they know they’re coming to larger wages, better-paying jobs, and positions that will be typically much longer than a typical agency relationship.

I think all of those components, especially if there are tasks, chronic care tasks that a licensed agency aide would not be allowed to do, or they want someone as a high-level companion who can speak French. We had the former president of the World Bank as a client, and we were able to match them with someone who had their finance degree and create a meaningful connection. This guy was very type A and didn’t want to speak to anyone unless there was some common knowledge on these advanced notions. Those are the reasons that people come and work with us. It’s to have that personalized, thoughtful match, and supported relationship.

I think that’s one of the benefits and beauties of a boutique firm, it allows you to be nimble like that and to customize and personalize the service. Not just one-size-fits-all, and some people don’t want that. They want something that’s customized to their loved one and their situation. That’s certainly a good reason to come to your organization. Rick, how can people reach you? How can they reach you if they want to access the services? Maybe they’re in New York. How could they reach you if they would like to have you speak anywhere, perhaps on best practices in home care?

The phone number for the office is (646) 240-4888. My email is Rick@HolisticHomecareAssociates.com. We also have our Facebook page, and I’m happy to do any speaking engagements and always speak to best practices on employing caregivers or anything to do with home care. I’m happy to always connect people if our registry isn’t the right option. It’s been my duty to make sure that I connect people with the right option. As long as the client is served, then we’ve done our job.

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That’s phenomenal. I know that people know if they call you, they will get a good connection if you can’t help them. I’ve already seen that part of how you operate. You’re an excellent connector, so I can speak about that. Rick, what additional words of wisdom would you like to leave for my audience of corporate executive business leaders? Most of them are not in home care. They may be in completely different industries, and yet everything that you and I have been talking about does apply to every business out there. What else would you like to share with them?

To quote Blue Ocean, “I don’t remember the author, collaboration happens at the top, and competition happens at the bottom.” I think that’s my word of wisdom.

What I love is basically everything you’ve built has been built through high level collaborations and collaborations at every level. That’s an important concept for people to realize and to remember. I don’t even like using the term competitive advantage because what I believe people have is creative advantage. You’re going to do something, Rick, because of who you are.

Your partner, Anne, is going to do something because of who she is. When you create your business, it has its unique pieces based on your gifts, talents, and skills. No one else is going to be able to do it quite like you because you are your own unique selves that you bring to the business. I call that creative advantage. You don’t need to compete with anyone, so to speak. Show up with all of your glory and gifts.

Half of life is just showing up. You get 50% credit for showing up.

It makes a huge difference. I want to thank you so much for our time and for all of the wonderful nuggets of wisdom that you have shared with my community. Thank you for being here.

I thank you, Dr. Karen.

Importance of Righteousness, Mercy, and Others’ Interests

We’re going to close out our segment with a few Bible verses that I think are relevant to what Rick and I have been talking about. First, I’ll start with the First Covenant, which is in Proverbs 21:21. It says, “He who follows righteousness and mercy finds life, righteousness, and honor.” The second reading is from Philippians 2:3-4, out of the New Covenant. It reads as follows, “Let nothing be done through selfish ambition and conceit, but in lowliness of mind, let each esteem others better than himself. Let each of you look out not only for his own interests but also for the interests of others.”

I think what we’ve heard here is a picture that Rick has painted of what it’s like to look out for the interests of multiple stakeholders, the win-win-win, looking out for the caregivers, the families, and for the business and those who work in the business with Rick. That’s certainly a part of it. It’s not like you don’t count yourself in, you do, yourself and others. That’s an important piece of it.

As a result, this business is alive. It’s a living organism, and it has honor. You’ve got the picture. You’ve seen it played out here. Rick has described it in an excellent way. I hope that you too out there who are reading will build a business that has mercy baked into it, righteousness and honor, and where you’re paying attention to the interests of others as well as yourself. We’ll see you in the next episode.

I’m here with Jos Snoep, who is the CEO and President of the Bible League. The Bible League is a ministry that provides Bibles and instructional materials in the Word of God, as well as trains teachers in their local language and culture to share the Word of God and to disciple people. Jos, tell us a little bit about the impact of the Bible League. What’s going on out there?

I met this lady. Her name was Nimia. Nimia was born in 1949. She became a Christian in 2002. We were able to invite her to one of our trainings. At the end of that meeting, she stood up and shared her testimony. She said, “This is the first time I received a Bible of my own. I’m equipped to share the Word of God with others.” I thought to myself at that point, “That’s why we are the Bible League. That’s why God called us to be in ministry, to serve people like that and to equip them with the right materials and with the Word of God.”

Thank you so much, Jos, for sharing that story. What I want to let everyone know is you can be a part of this movement as well. You can go to BibleLeague.org to find out more about the ministry and also to donate to the ministry. There are lots more stories like the one that Jos just shared about lives that are changed and impacted for God through Jesus Christ.

I’m here with Terence Chatmon, the President and CEO of the nonprofit organization Victorious Family. They are committed to family discipleship and transformation. Thank you for being here, Terence. Tell us about your big goal, what it is that you’re going for at Victorious Family.

By 2030, we see reaching 9.2 million families here in the US.

That is wonderful. You’re reaching these families because you want to see children grow up and truly continue their faith in Christ. Tell us about one of your resources, Do Your Children Believe?, the book you’ve written.

Ephesians 6:4 says, “Fathers, don’t exasperate your children, but bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord.” We’re just being faithful to that calling. In order to do that, we train coaches, provide workshops and content to train parents on how to disciple their children.

That is phenomenal. How can people find out more about the ministry, the other tools and resources you have available? How can they donate to support the ministry?

One of those tools is Do Your Children Believe, a book that we’ve published through Thomas Nelson, and you can find that at VictoriousFamily.org.

There you have it. You want your family to be victorious? Go to VictoriousFamily.org.

 

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About Rick Gang

The Voice of Leadership (Podcast & YouTube) /Dr. Karen Speaks Leadership (TV Show and iHeart Radio) | Home CareRick Gang BA is a skilled home care professional with nearly 30 years of experience managing home care. As CEO and co-founder of Holistic HomeCare Associates, Rick has a deep understanding of the home care landscape. He and his team take great pride in ensuring that clients receive the very best home care experience through rigorous caregiver screening and matching and enhancing and simplifying the employment process.

 

May 20, 2024

The Care And Feeding Of Orchids, Part 2 [Episode 477]

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The care and feeding of orchids is a delicate business. Too much or too little of a good substance can lead to an untimely demise. Dr. Karen shares six executive business insights from her experiences with orchid care. The first lesson is to seek outside consultation when you are not knowledgeable about a needed area of expertise. View this episode to see the unveiling of the other insights.

For relevant context see The Care and Feeding of Orchids, Part 1 (Episode # 442, 19 September 2023)

Contact Dr. Karen at: Dr.Karen@transleadership.com

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The Care And Feeding Of Orchids, Part 2

The care and feeding of orchids is a delicate business. Too much or too little of a good substance can lead to an untimely demise. Dr. Karen shares six executive business insights from her experiences with orchid care.

In this episode, I am talking about the care and feeding of orchids part two. If you read part one, you will know that I received a beautiful orchid plant from my cousin and his wife. Not being a horticulturist myself, I had a hard time figuring out, how do I care for this orchid, and how do I keep it alive. I talked about that in Episode 442, which was in September of 2023.

How I Saved My Orchid From Overwatering And Thirst

I was so happy at that time that I had kept that orchid blooming for almost four months, which was quite a feat for me. Since that time, many other things have happened to the orchid. Let me give you an update. As I promised, I’d come back, and have some additional leadership lessons that we can learn from the care and feeding of orchids.

First of all, the orchid plant had very healthy green leaves. I did a great job with watering it so that it wasn’t overwatered or underwatered, and the green leaves stayed beautiful for a long time. The beginning of the year happened and my schedule changed. I started traveling much more aggressively. I was gone for long periods of time from 10 to 14 days. I had to figure out what to do with this orchid.

In the meantime, I also wanted the orchid to bloom again. I consulted a very good friend of mine who truly has a green thumb, has a house full of blooming, beautiful orchids, and does a great job. She gave me some tips about how to make it bloom again. That looked like it was going to be a very time-consuming process for someone like me who’s traveling often and on the road. I said, “I’ll wait until a little bit later before I implement some of those strategies.”

In the meantime, with all of this aggressive traveling that I was doing, I had to figure out, how do I water this orchid and keep it alive until I come back? One of the times, I watered the orchid too much. I was trying to make that water last until I would return. When I got home, I saw the dreaded yellow leaves. The beautiful green leaves had turned yellow.

From all the research that I did, I knew that meant the orchid had got too much water. My poor orchid was drowning in water, and it was dying. When I touched those yellow leaves, they just fell off right into my hands. I had about two good leaves left and I said, “Let me see if I can salvage these two that are remaining.” I went on the next trip and said, “This time, I’m not going to overwater the plant. I’ll just make sure I give the plant a small amount of water.”

When I came back, the plant was stressed in the opposite direction and now it was starving. It was dying of thirst and shriveling up. I lost one of the two good leaves, and the one that was remaining was small, puny, and didn’t look like it was going to make it either. I was like, “What do I do now?” I wasn’t sure how to salvage this but I figured, “Let me work on it.” I have salvaged plants in the past, brought them back from near disaster, and I thought, “I could do it again. Let me figure it out, and let me work on it.”

In the meantime, the same wonderful first cousin of mine and his wife gave me another beautiful orchid plant and it was even more spectacular. It had more green plants in it. It was more diverse. I thought, “How nice. I will then cultivate both of these plants.” However, my husband took a look at the first plant and said, “This plant is gone. It has outlived its life. It’s time for it to go.” I said, “No, I don’t want it to go. I want to bring it back to health.” He said, “Time to go. You have a new plant now.”

Leadership Lessons From Orchid Care

He sent the plant on to plant heaven. I have the new plant that I’m cultivating and working on at the moment and so far, so good. The new plant is still alive. There are a lot of lessons in all of this about what to pay attention to and how to think about everything that happened. I know that in my case, when my circumstances changed, I needed to make some changes, too.

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What I could have done with the plant when my circumstances changed, my friend, unfortunately, was recovering from surgery at the hospital. I didn’t want to do this first thing, which was, I could have sent the plant to her. It could have been in the plant hospital. She would have put it in with all of her plants and taken care of it. It probably would have done much better and she would have returned it to me in great shape. However, it was not a good time for me to do that because of her own circumstances.

The other thing I could have done was to get one of those time-released water bulbs and put that in the plant so that it would get water while I was gone, but not too much and not too little. I didn’t do any of those things. That’s why I’m telling you this story about the fate of the plant and what happened to the orchid. As far as leadership lessons, there are several that I want to share with you about this experience.

Number one, in leadership, when you are dealing with something new or a new set of circumstances, maybe where you don’t have knowledge and expertise, get outside help. Consult with knowledgeable people. You know I did get outside help. I studied books and talked to people. I did consult and get outside help. Number two, however, it is even more important which is to follow the expertise that your outside consultant shares with you. I followed some of it, but not all of it.

This reminds me of some of my clients. We’ll be talking about things, and I’ll make some recommendations for what their next steps might be. They might, for various reasons, just like I did with the orchid not implement whatever it is that we’re talking about. Later on, when the orchid dies, or the leaves turn yellow, or whatever is happening in their organization, they’ll come back, and I’ll say, “Did you implement what we talked about?” “No, we didn’t do that.” I had predicted upfront that this would be the outcome. They say, “We remember that.” Yet life gets in the way.

There are reasons sometimes why we don’t implement what we know to do and what we’ve heard about from our outside consultants and experts. In those cases, you can’t always do everything yourself because, as I mentioned, life gets in the way. That brings me to number three. It’s get hands-on help for whatever it is that you’re doing. In my case, that hands-on help could have been in the form of my friend who could have been babysitting the plant or someone else who could have babysat the plant while I was gone.

I could have got some tech help, which reminds me, metaphorically, think about the technology that we use, including artificial intelligence. That little water bulb would have been just a picture of that. I could have got some outside help to be my hands when I wasn’t there. You want to do the same thing in your organization. You want to get help from others who are in the organization and help from those who are outside the organization. This extends your reach and your ability to make a difference.

When circumstances change, you want to change strategies. In 2023, it was perfectly fine because I was in town most weeks and I could water the plant every week and giving it that small amount of water it needed. In 2024, my circumstances changed. I wasn’t available to water the plant every single week in the same way. That required new strategies.

In your business, when your circumstances change, look at your procedures or your processes and identify what also needs to alter what also needs to change. Make sure that you make the changes that go with the season you’re in within your business. The next item is important. We have to accept that all things come to an end. There is a natural cycle of life, and there’s an end date to everything.

We want to remember the good times that we had with those who took the journey with us up to this point and then learn to say goodbye. There is an art to saying goodbye. You take some time in saying goodbye when it’s real people and yet, you have to say goodbye. I don’t know if you remember, but in the first episode, when I talked about lessons from orchids and orchid care. I talked about how important when a flower was starting to fade to start taking that off from the orchid so that it didn’t take up a lot of extra nutrients from new growth that was coming behind it.

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The same thing was true when I was trying to hold on to this plant and not let it go to plant heaven. A lot of care and effort would have been taken to bring it back to life. Was it possible to bring it back? Probably. Think about the resources involved when it had already served its time. When you think about that in your organization, there are some people who are there with you for a limited season.

When their season is up, let them go. Let them go to another place where they can continue to add value. You could grow, develop, and nurture them. However, the effort that it would take might away from the resources you have to grow and nurture those who are the perfect fit for where you are now. A lot of times, I’ve watched people take too long trying to resuscitate something that they ought to let go of in their organizations.

This siphons away energy from other parts of the organization. It causes those who are the perfect fit for where you are to become very frustrated and discouraged because they need your attention and cultivation to grow as well. We must learn to say goodbye and realize that we can hold on to some people too long. You don’t want to be in that position, which then hampers your entire organization. When you let go of those things that are taking up a lot of time, even though you could do it. Maybe it’s not the best use of your time.

That brings me to the last item which is to welcome and usher in the new. I’ll tell you my new orchid is bigger, fancier, and beautiful. I can devote my energy and time to the new orchid, giving it the proper lighting, proper water, and proper care. The new orchid is the orchid for this time and for this season in my life. Think about all of those things about getting outside, help, and consulting with knowledgeable people. Number two, following the expertise that you learn about. Number three, getting the hands-on help when you can’t do it yourself, delegate to others, bring in technology, or the AI that you might need.

Leadership Lessons From Ecclesiastes For Organizational Growth

Number four, when circumstances change, you change strategies. Don’t do the same thing. Number five, accept that all things have a season, and you have to let go and say goodbye sometimes. Number six, welcome and usher in the new, put your energy, food, sustenance, and resources into growing whatever that new thing is in your organization. As we close, I want to share a reading from Ecclesiastes 3. This is very relevant to what we’re talking about.

It says, starting with verse one, “To everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under heaven, a time to be born, die, plant, and pluck up what is planted. A time to kill, heal, break down, build up, and weep. A time to laugh, mourn, dance, cast away stones, gather stones, embrace, and refrain from embracing. A time to gain, lose, keep, throw away, tear, sew, silence, speak, love, hate, war, and peace.” Let me ask you, what time is it in your organization? What is it that you need to do? What is it that makes the most sense for your current season and for ensuring that your organization grows, is sustained, and adds the value that you were intended to add? I look forward for the next episode.

Creating Your Own Pathway To Leadership Success And Opportunity

I want to tell you about my book, Lead Yourself First!: The Senior Leader’s Guide to Engaging Your People for Greater Performance and Impact. This book is about playing the music that only you can play. Leadership is about more than following clever techniques, you are the instrument of your leadership. People are inspired by you and how you show up. In Chapter three of the book, which is called Forge Your Own Pathway, I share many experiences of creating a pathway forward when a pathway didn’t exist beforehand.

Sometimes that path is created through service, such as when I was taking a train every week from Wiesbaden to Frankfurt, Germany, to volunteer in the Army hospital, the 97th General. I was volunteering once a week as a psychologist. Little did I know that this volunteer job would later become a full-time employment opportunity for me. It’s because of the volunteer service, I was in the right place at the right time when the doors opened up. The metaphor that I often use for creating opportunities is the ability to see possibilities where none are visible, and I call this creating blizzard food.

Imagine, just like in Colorado, this could happen at any time. There might be a raging blizzard outside. You haven’t gone to the grocery store yet. There’s no obvious food in the refrigerator or the pantry. Yet, if you look hard enough, there is hidden food, and you can use it to create delicious meals for yourself and also your guests. I encourage you, get your own copy of Lead Yourself First, forge your own pathway forward, create your own opportunities, be the instrument of your leadership, and create some delicious blizzard food.

Creating A Positive, Profitable Workplace Culture

Did you know that workplaces can make a significant difference in the lives of people and that you can create a positive culture that gets positive business results and also produces positive life experiences for your employees, clients, and customers? You can make a significant contribution to the world by creating the culture where your people can bring their gifts to provide the most relevant and excellent products and services to your marketplace.

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What the research shows is that companies with excellent leadership are also more profitable. As you flourish and grow in the world, you can do more for yourself as well as for others. If this is resonating with you and you want to create a positive, profitable, and powerful corporate culture, and you care about succession, leaving the organization in a better position than when you found it. Do keep in mind that that kind of legacy is something intentional. I am happy to partner with you to take your organization to the next level and create that positive leadership culture. Reach me at Dr.Karen@TransLeadership.com.

I want to let you know that I am running a special promotion. If you are a CEO or executive leader in a medium to large-sized company, and you care about how your people are treated. Especially if you share our biblical values and you may be facing difficult decisions where you want some additional perspective.

You may be planning for succession in your company, developing people, and preparing the organization for that succession. Perhaps you’re going through change, or leading change. Maybe there’s a merger or an acquisition. Whatever you’re facing in terms of leadership, including developing your executive team, contact me. Give me a call so we can do a discovery meeting to see what’s going on.

Here’s the special promotion. In addition to your discovery time, I will interview up to three additional people from your executive team so you have even greater context and feedback about where to go next. Reach out to me at Dr.Karen@TransLeadership.com or phone me at (719) 534-0949, extension 1. I look forward to hearing from you and coming alongside you to complete and continue your leadership journey with positivity and profitability in your organization.

 

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May 13, 2024

Susan Ireland: The Journey From Boeing To Start-Up To Her Own Business (Episode # 476)

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Susan Ireland spent 30 years in business operations leadership roles at The Boeing Company. She was on the original leadership team that built and established a new digital aviation business for Boeing Commercial Airplanes. After Boeing, Susan played a strategic role in a start-up company that developed, manufactured, and installed hydrogen systems on diesel engines.

Now, as co-founder of Seasons Leadership, a professional coaching and services business, she and her business partner, Debbie Collard, leverage and share the lessons they learned from both complex global organizations and small technology start-ups. Their objective is to make leadership excellence the worldwide standard.

Susan holds a Bachelor of Arts in Communications from the University of Washington and a Master of Science in Management from Antioch University. She is an alumna of the International Executive Programme at Insead University in France and the Executive Leadership Program at Seattle University.

Today Susan speaks with Dr. Karen about how to use business operations systems to manage your business, career progression for women in male-dominated fields, and how to use your values to take charge of your career.

Reach Susan Ireland at www.seasonsleadership.com

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Susan Ireland: The Journey From Boeing To Start-Up To Her Own Business [Episode 476]

Susan Ireland spent 30 years in business operations leadership roles at The Boeing Company. She was on the original leadership team that built and established a new digital aviation business for Boeing Commercial Airplanes.

In this episode, I have a very special guest, someone whose backstory and experiences she has leveraged for what she does. Let me tell you about her because you can do the same thing. Susan Ireland is the Cofounder of Seasons Leadership, a professional coaching and consulting services business that she started with her business partner and colleague, Debbie Collard. Their objective is to make leadership excellence the worldwide standard.

Susan consults with leaders at all levels to enhance leadership and business acumen, encourage self-discovery, and turn challenges into positive results. Prior to her current role, Susan spent 30 years at The Boeing Company, holding a number of director-level business operations leadership roles. She also played a key role on the original leadership team that built and established a new digital aviation business for Boeing Commercial Airplanes.

At Boeing, Susan navigated and leveraged the complexities of large global organizations. Following her time with Boeing, Susan played a strategic role in a startup company that developed, manufactured, and installed hydrogen systems on diesel engines. There, she provided expertise in steering the design, implementation, and management of business processes. Her experiences at Boeing and the small entrepreneurial company give her the unique background to understand both large enterprises and small startup organizations.

Susan holds a Bachelor of Arts in Communications from the University of Washington and a Master of Science in Management from Antioch University. She is an alumna of the International Executive Program at INSEAD University in France and the Executive Leadership Program at Seattle University. In addition, she holds many coaching certifications, including the ICF Certified Professional Coach Credential. She is also a dynamic speaker and host of the Seasons Leadership Podcast.

When she’s not helping others along their journeys, Susan enjoys spending time with her family and traveling. Her personal values of wonder and awe have inspired her to see the world, including her longtime goal of living and working in Ireland for an extended period. Susan, welcome to the show. I’m so happy to have you here.

Thank you, Dr. Karen. It’s great to be here.

Getting The Idea To Start Seasons Leadership

Wonderful. You have such a rich background in history and I want people to know all about it. We’ll start with the present and what you’re doing. Tell us, how did you and your business partner, Debbie, get the idea to start Seasons Leadership?

Dr. Karen, it was spontaneous. I retired from Boeing in 2016. I knew at that time I was going to start my own coaching business because I love coaching and had already got my head around that that was what I was going to do. I was doing that. 1 year or 2 later, I noticed on LinkedIn that Debbie had retired and become a coach. Debbie and I worked together at Boeing but we hadn’t spoken since I left. I connected with her. We started talking about why she became a coach. It was very similar to why I did. She enjoyed working with people, supporting people, and helping other people achieve their dreams.

She had moved to Texas. I’m in Seattle but she was in Seattle for a visit. We got together. We started talking. It was exciting. We said, “We could do this and this.” We decided we wanted to share what we had learned over the years. She had a 30-plus-year background and I had a 30-year background. We said, “Let’s do it.” We both had a passion for the idea of what we knew and what we had learned. How can we share that with people who are in early, mid, and late careers to help them accelerate their progress and what they want to do? We learned by just going. We were living and learning at the same time. We wanted to give people a step up to help them.

I appreciate that because those of us who have gone through 30-plus years need to reach back, give back, and share what we’ve learned. That accelerates and elevates the leadership impact of other people. Thank you for doing that rather than retiring and moving off into the sunset without sharing all that wisdom and allowing that wisdom to go forward and benefit other people. That’s spectacular. I’m glad you decided to do that.

Creating A Course Amid The Pandemic

I know that you and Debbie started a course designed to capture all the things you learned from both of your careers. You started it at a difficult time at the beginning of the pandemic in 2020. What happened with that course? How did you need to change during the COVID time and even after to be successful and effective?

We didn’t plan on launching it during COVID. After our conversation when Debbie was in Seattle, we said, “Let’s put everything we know into a program,” and we did. The idea was to have people come together in a cohort throughout the year. We wanted it to be a year-long because we thought it took that long to integrate some of these learnings. We didn’t want a quick fix for people. We wanted something they could use, implement in their careers and lives, and see a difference.

We put it together and were working hard and fast to do this. We got a group together, all women at the time, for an in-person event on March 20th, 2020. I was calling Debbie as she was getting on a plane, saying, “I don’t know if you should come because I don’t know what’s happening.” In Seattle, we were the center of everything. It started here. She in Texas said, “I think it’ll be okay.” She had no idea about the different environments we were in.

We had a great first cohort. It was a weekend long. We were the only people in the hotel. The hotel was very generous. We had food and everything we needed. After that, as we all know, everything shut down. Debbie got back to Texas and then the planes stopped. We decided, “What are we going to do?” Like everybody in the world, we had to do that word that everybody did, which is pivot online. You have to do what you have to do. We put our things online and got our cohort together. Everybody stuck with us and we started doing Zoom. It worked out great.

We’ve completed that year thinking this is going to end soon and we’ll go back to our in-person program. We couldn’t so we did another year virtually. It was surprising. Other people experienced this as well. Our first cohort was generally around the Pacific Northwest because we were located in Seattle. We had a few people fly in for it but it was mostly that. When our second year came around, because we were all online, we had people from all over the world, which was fantastic.

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It brings a whole new dimension to the leadership conversations we were having. That’s what happened there. We decided we were being limited because it was only Debbie and me. To do the cohort type of classes was taking up a lot of our energy and space so we decided to put that on hold. As a matter of fact, Dr. Karen, I don’t even think I told you about this. We are getting ready to launch an online version that is more self-paced than our program. We’re excited about that. You’re going to see that soon.

You did mention it. Like other business leaders, you have to innovate, change, grow, and create new versions of what you started. Many business leaders, when talking about a coaching or consulting practice, need to know how to do that because there’s always change going on in the work environment. It’s very dynamic. You and Debbie have lived it in your previous work lives and are also living it now. That’s very credible because you have fresh information about what it takes to change and be successful. That’s wonderful. I love that story about how you didn’t let that stop you. You kept going, made it work, and made it into an advantage with the international element.

One of the things we do, which is important to us and can be helpful to other people, to help us be more flexible is to keep going back to what our mission is. Our mission is to support leaders to become more excellent leaders. When you think about that, it doesn’t say how we do that. We have to keep looking for ways to meet people where they are and what they need. You have to be creative with that. Sometimes it’s in person. Sometimes it’s online. It’s important to us to support leaders. That’s why we keep going.

The Balance Of Being And Doing In Leadership

Phenomenal. I’m glad to hear that part of your story as well. You have some concepts that you work on within your business. One is about the whole notion of being and then there’s the whole notion of doing. Tell us a little bit about that. What is this being? What is this doing? How do you support leaders in both of those realms?

This is not a concept we came up with, being and doing. It can be a challenge, especially for people who are in the work environment leading others, because there’s so much pressure on us to perform and deliver results. That is focused on what we do. Being a leader first requires who we are at our core, what our values are, why we do what we do, and staying grounded in those things because that’s what shines through. The doing will come. The being is about being confident enough in yourself, to be yourself, speak your voice, and allow others space to speak their voice. It’s the foundation. We spend time on that foundation, who you are as a person and a leader. We then talk about how you do it.

I resonate with what you’re saying about being and doing. I don’t know if you know or remember Frances Hesselbein. She was a nonprofit leader who worked with Peter Drucker. They had the Leader to Leader Institute, which went through various name changes. She lived to be 107 years old. I worked with her years ago. She had this concept of being and doing, which she taught often with the military and at West Point. Being a former military officer, I’m familiar with that as well.

It’s crucial to start with the self. The book I wrote is called Lead Yourself First!. It’s all about understanding who you are because we are the instruments of our leadership. What we do comes out of who we are. It’s phenomenal that you are acknowledging that and doing that work with the people you’re consulting with as well. We are of the same mind when it comes to that.

No kidding, Dr. Karen. Coincidentally, I am diving deep into Frances Hesselbein because I’ve connected with Alan Mulally. He is a fan of hers and was a close friend. I am deep into that. It’s so interesting that you were connected to her as well.

We did some joint projects together for a number of years, first with Texaco and then when it merged into Chevron Texaco. That’s how I know her, through years of working together.

I love the synchronicities, connecting.

Understanding Business Operations Consulting And Its Role In Leadership Success

You just never know. You also, Susan, refer to your work as business operations consulting. That’s an important term and it’s different from what we often hear. What is business operations consulting? How important is it to leadership success?

That was my career at Boeing, and Debbie’s as well. In a big corporation, sometimes titles, roles, and all of that aren’t clear. What we mean by business operations is it’s the organization that is connecting the dots and all other functional organizations together. It describes the plan and puts it all together, the schedule and the processes the organization needs to run. It’s like running the organization on the inside. It’s the space between all the different functions, the connection of it.

Most often, what I have found is organizations, big and small, don’t know about this or don’t do it very well. They don’t know what is wrong with their organization. Why aren’t we working? Why aren’t we communicating? How come the left-hand doesn’t know what the right hand is doing? That’s what the business operations function is. It’s integrating it all together so everybody knows the plan that we’re on, how we’re doing on that plan, and who needs to do what and when to meet our goals.

When I hear you talk about this, Susan, I think a lot about the word alignment, making sure that all parts are aligned. The word systems also come to mind, having the right system so that all of this can be done. You address leadership and management systems. Say a little bit more about that. What are some of those pieces that people often forget?

When you have a leadership system, you can start at a high level by understanding who the leaders are, their roles, how they interact together, who is responsible for what, and how they agree to work. What are their operating principles? What are the behaviors they want to live by? What’s the system they will implement so that they all are working together? This takes time and dialogue between all the leaders. There’s no one system. I can’t say, “This is what everybody needs to do.” It’s not a cookie-cutter kind of a thing.

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You go in and work with the leaders. They participate as they develop their leadership system and operating principles. When you talk about a management system, that is the operating rhythm. It’s how you, in an organized and predictable way, manage your business. For example, we advocate having a BPR or Business Plan Review. This is something we got from Alan Mulally. Once a week, a business, a company, or an organization has a business plan review where the whole leadership team gets together. This is for big corporations or small businesses like Debbie and I. We do it every week.

You look at your plan and everybody has their part of the plan and they report. “This is how it’s going and where I need help. This is what’s going well,” that kind of thing. Everybody knows what’s happening in the business. It’s very transparent, from financials, human resources, engineering, operations, and supply chain. Everybody is reporting because everybody has an important piece of the business. You have that in a weekly rhythm. It can go fast. It sounds onerous.

When I first talked to people about this, they said, “You got to be crazy. I have no time for that.” Let me tell you, it can go pretty fast but you can get ahead of problems and tackle problems when you have a whole team working on it rather than just one person. Everything is in a system. You look at your finances, talent, and company regularly. Everything is in a rhythm and everybody knows what that rhythm is so they can prepare for it and it takes away the chaos that sometimes runs in the business it can have.

It’s like having the system in place in a rhythm so that what occurs on a regular basis, you’re not reinventing the wheel every week to deal with it. You already have the process in place to analyze and look at what you’re doing. People usually know these things are important and know what to do, yet at the same time, they often don’t do it. I heard you say one of the reasons they might not is they think it’s going to take longer than it does. They don’t understand that they either take a little bit of time and do it upfront or a lot of time on the back end because they didn’t do it. What else gets in people’s way? Why do they not do these things that they know are relevant?

One of the big things is they haven’t experienced it. They’ve only experienced chaos. That’s what their models are like. This is what it means to run a company. “I’m doing everything. I’m fighting fires. I’m the person in charge and I need to answer every question.” That is the way it is. You can get pretty far that way sometimes but that has a lot to do with luck. Putting a system in place feels constraining. Some people feel like, “I want to be free and do whatever I want to do.” When you have an organization that’s following you, it feels too chaotic to them. If they have a system, they know what’s happening. Another reason might be ego. “I know best so I’m going to do it.”

Lessons From Successful People At Boeing

That doesn’t always work. Let’s turn back the clock a little bit. I’m going to ask you some things about Boeing. You’ve worked with a lot of successful people there. Tell us a little bit about what you learned about successful people and how they operate.

I was super lucky. Working at Boeing was a great career. The people there were so dedicated. I believe they were the smartest people in the world. If I had a question like, “How does that airplane fly? I was not an engineer. What about that part? What does that part do?” There was always somebody very generous with their time and expertise to explain it to me. It was great in all functions, which was wonderful. It was amazing to be around people who were the best of the best.

What I learned from that is those people who had the most impact on me were very generous with their time, advice, and ideas. What I learned from them is to allow space for other people to learn. When I started, I was a communications major and went into industrial engineering. I didn’t even know what that was at the time but they put you in, gave you a job, and trained you how to do it. I found it interesting. I looked to other people to learn more. A big one is to share what you know with others around you.

Leave space for learning. Creating a culture of learning is a key to success in business if people focus on that. What other lessons did you learn from Boeing and being there? What else did you learn that you’re even taking with you and using?

One of the positive things is that you always have to keep learning. I came from a communication degree and my job wasn’t in communications. My job moved into business operations. There are ways to learn, get competent, and get good at what you do but you have to work at it. It doesn’t come out of the blue naturally. If it’s important to you, do the work, go to school, get mentors, practice, and ask for assignments that are stretch assignments where you have to push yourself. You will learn but it’s up to you to do that work. Nobody can do that for you.

That’s important about putting yourself in places where you can learn what’s next. Something else you said that I loved is your background in communication. My background is in psychology. We can apply what we’ve learned in those fields to so many different settings. What setting doesn’t need communication, or in my case, an understanding of people and how they operate? We can apply that not just in one space but in multiple spaces. It becomes a gift or a real ability that is flexible in a lot of senses.

That is exactly right. People are kaleidoscopes of skills, experiences, ideas, and thoughts. The more we can bring that to what we’re doing, the more rich and valuable our contributions will be.

Leaving Boeing: The Courage To Transition Into New Opportunities

What prompted you to leave Boeing at the time that you did? How did you even have the courage to make that step? Often, people stay someplace because it’s too difficult to think about moving and doing something different.

That is true. It started with a class I took. It was an extra elective class when I was getting my Master’s and it was in coaching, which I had never heard of before. I thought this was interesting. I coached people I worked with and loved working with people. I took it and liked it. The professor said, “You can do this as a career.” I thought, “What do you mean? I don’t even know what that means.” She said, “People will pay you for this.” I said, “I don’t know about that.” I pushed it off to the side but there was a seed in there that I thought, “Maybe someday I’ll look at this.”

That professor was great. As part of that class, we did a values exercise. I had done many value exercises throughout my career at Boeing because they had training. I went to training and different things. We were always doing this value exercise. I could do it pretty fast. I’d check the box and say, “I know my values.” It’s true, they were my values but I didn’t put very much thought into it. She kept saying, “Do it again.” I said, “What do you mean?” She said, “I don’t think you’re digging deep enough.” I did do it. Instead of an hour, it took me a couple of weeks, maybe a month, to do it.

You always have to keep learning. If it’s important to you, do the work.

Values exercises are all over the web and they’re all about the same. You start with words and then pick the words that resonate with you. My words were safety, security, family, and contribution. Those are good. Those are my values. I started to realize why those were my values. I was a single parent for most of my career. Safety and security made sense because I needed enough money and security for my family. Family was my priority and contribution was my work. They all played together and made sense to me.

As I was going through this exercise, I realized safety and security are still there. It’s not gone. However, the priority has changed because my kids are older. I’ve worked at Boeing for all these years and I have positions of responsibility. I’m feeling pretty secure. My risk factor is way better than it was when I first started at Boeing. I thought, “Maybe my priorities have changed.” Not that my family isn’t my priority, but where am I spending my attention and focus?

The contribution was still there. I said, “What is it that lights my fire and gets me going?” I was thinking about this and came up with wonder and awe. I knew that was it. When I was a little girl, what were the things that I used to dream about? I wanted to be an astronaut, travel the world, and do things like that. I thought, “I do. I still am that person and I want that. I have space in my life to do that.” I still have my responsibilities but I have more space to pay attention to that.

From then on, I started making my decisions with that in mind. If I had a new job, I thought, “Would this give me wonder and awe?” For me, that means, is it something new? Am I going to be learning something? Is it a great project? If the answer was yes, I took it. This is maybe a long way to get to why I decided to leave Boeing when I did. I started thinking about where I was in life.

Unfortunately, my son-in-law passed away from leukemia. It brought into clear focus that life is short in many ways. I realized I was in a position where I could leave and try something else that would give me wonder and awe. It was a little bit scary but I felt I was in a position where I could do it. Why not? The question was, what would give me wonder and awe? That was it. I leaped and that’s where it was.

That’s a great story and example of how we can live our lives by our values and also how those values can shift in priority over time. When I think about safety and security, it almost feels like the opposite of wonder and awe. At the same time, you already built the foundation of safety and security. That was taken care of, which gave you the margin and opportunity to pursue this other piece. It has been a part of you since childhood. Often, people don’t get to go back to those childhood dreams and live them out. Good for you that you did the exercise longer, got to wonder and awe, and you’re living some of that. You and I are talking to each other, and you are in Ireland.

I am. Remember when I was talking about leadership and management systems, the BPR, and the regular operating rhythm? I apply that to business. I did it at Boeing and I’ve done it in consulting. It works. What I didn’t talk about is that I do that with my life and it works. I define my values and what I want to do in the future. I think about that on a regular basis. I have an operating rhythm and I put these goals out there. I put my system in place to achieve those goals. I don’t do it as rigorously as I would in business. I give myself some slack if I don’t do things on time. I allow changes but the whole process and mindset of thinking of our life or projects like this puts in place mechanisms to make sure they happen.

Key Lessons From Working With Smaller Entrepreneurial Businesses

You’re talking about deciding what you want to do and accomplish for various values-based reasons. What I’ve discovered is that the how will come to you as you’re pursuing the what. That’s what you’re describing. That’s very powerful. I’ve also found that business tools often work very well when personalized. I’m glad you circled back to say that because it’s relevant. Thank you. You also had startup experience and worked with a smaller entrepreneurial company. Let’s talk about that a little bit. What did you learn from that experience? Tell us a little bit about that business.

That was fun. Hytec Power. It was truly a startup. Not very many people and everybody was doing everything. When I came on board, I came from my business operations experience and putting the processes together. I found myself doing HR functions and everything business-wise. I wasn’t doing any engineering or manufacturing but putting the process together so the business itself could have an operating rhythm, leadership system, and management system.

What I found is that in a startup, things move awfully fast. Having that foundation that I had worked well because I didn’t have to learn it. I was putting it together and working with the leaders there at the time. They were all on board to be able to do this because they were trying to get more established and systematized to deliver their product. The quickness is something to learn and be more flexible.

In a big corporation like Boeing, you have processes and you’ve got to follow them. In a small startup, knowing the intent of the processes and then being able to flex and still achieve the intent is important. First, you learn the rules and then how to break the rules. That’s where I was in the startup. That was good. The other thing is there’s no security in startups.

You might not get paid. You need to deliver. Not everything works out. You don’t have the backup or deep pockets that you do in a larger, more established corporation. You have to be more willing to accept those risks. I was in a good position since I had retired from Boeing that I was able to take those risks. I realized that not everybody can.

That’s important what you’re saying, knowing that it fits in with your life at that time and that you can manage the ups and downs and the roller coaster experience. We also know that a lot of startups and entrepreneurial businesses fail. What’s your sense about why that happens? What are some of the hazards that get in their way that cause them to fail?

The one startup I was with did fail. It’s probably as many reasons as there are startups out there. It could be the product wasn’t ready and you don’t have enough money to push it through to the end. Money is a big deal. It could be that you don’t have the expertise that you need. I wish I knew all the answers but there is no one great answer. The leaders in those positions have a huge responsibility to the people who are investing in them and the people who are working for them to be as transparent as possible and know when to call it and when to keep going.

That timing is not always obvious or clear to make those decisions. Sometimes, people call it too soon or they stay too long, and then the losses are greater. They weren’t going to be effective anyway because of other parts of the system. There’s a lot you learn in this faster-paced environment where you have to be much more agile. Talk a little bit about those lessons and how you’re bringing those forward as well. You’re fortunate to have both sides of the spectrum, big business and also entrepreneurial small business.

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One of the lessons that I learned there for startups is to have a diverse set of, I’m going to call them, board of advisors. It’s not necessarily a formal board of directors or anything like that but a board of advisors. Diversity is important because it’s people who have different experiences and perspectives, not just people who tell you what they think you want to hear. That would be the best thing, and then to have them be able to tell you as the leader or the group of leaders where you can do better.

That’s important because it’s a recognition of the fact that no one person has all the skills needed to run a business. If you’re bringing this diverse board around you and you’re willing to listen to the advisory board, the willingness to listen is huge. You can learn what you don’t know. You can avoid some unnecessary mistakes and get faster to where you need to go. That’s a great lesson you learned from the entrepreneurial small business.

It’s hard, though. The thing that gets people into startups is that they have this great idea and they’re good at something about that, either creating it or whatever it is. The problem is that you need much more than that idea to make it a reality. It’s hard to let go, being the person, expert, and founder, to be able to broaden your perspective and call more people in.

Navigating Male-Dominated Fields In Leadership And Business

You’re right. That’s a hazard of it. The kind of people who start and find things don’t easily let the pieces go, even though, at times, you need to. That’s huge what you’re saying. Susan, both of these experiences, the startup experience and the Boeing experience, occurred in what I would refer to as male-dominated fields. Talk a little bit about that. What was it like for you as a woman to work in these spaces? What did you experience? What did you learn from that?

Oftentimes, especially when I started in the late 1980s, I was the only woman in the room. Oftentimes, I could see people being promoted a lot quicker and further than I was, which was disappointing. I’m hoping it’s better. I’m not sure if it is but I’m hoping it is. What did I learn? I don’t know that I learned this by doing it. I learned this thinking about it. What would I do differently?

This is part of the reason why I’m a coach. I did not advocate for myself. I went with the flow. I was good at and still am good at reading a room and knowing, “If I want this, I need to do this.” I’m juggling other people’s needs and wants to get ahead. Looking back, I could have been a bigger advocate and taken more risks but I didn’t. I was a single parent for most of the time. Safety and security were top of my mind.

I had this notion that I didn’t want to get fired. I was afraid I was going to get fired. It’s a crazy notion. I was never going to get fired. I was a great employee. People wanted me to work in their groups. I contributed and provided a lot of value. Nobody ever suggested I was going to get fired. I had it in my mind that I wasn’t good enough because I wasn’t an engineer or in manufacturing. I was a communications major. Earlier in this show, I said I was just a communications major. I still do it.

I could have taken my career more into my own hands and got training earlier than I did. I waited. Boeing had a training program and everything but you had to be a certain level before you could take certain classes and that kind of thing, which is great. It’s a big corporation. That’s fine. They have to have their own program. It doesn’t mean I have to stick with it. That’s where I would have done things differently.

I heard a lot of things there that women who may be reading this show can take away. One is to advocate for yourself. Include yourself in the group that needs to be developed in service. It’s not just thinking about others, which you do naturally. Put yourself on that list. “What do I need next?” Take the risk to sometimes do it earlier or in a different rhythm than what the company might do on their own so you can take charge of your career in a lot of ways. I hear a little about balancing out the need for safety and security in terms of risk-taking and being willing to get out front a little earlier or sooner. What else would you advise women to think about based on your experience that we haven’t said yet?

I would say get a coach or somebody to talk to. It doesn’t have to be a paid coach but you can get a mentor. You can do it with your colleagues. Push each other. Sometimes, we can see something in another person that they can’t see for themselves. Tell them. Be open when your friends tell you, “I see something special in you. You do this well. Do more of it.” Support each other and lift each other up. That’s important. Some of the things are we don’t even know what’s possible. That’s why talking to others can help us. It was somebody else who suggested I get into management. I didn’t think about it at first.

It’s good to have an outside perspective, for sure. People will see the gifts in us that we sometimes ignore because it’s just, “That’s just us. That’s nothing special,” and we forget. For example, in these high-tech environments, your communications background is needed because that’s not usually what tech people are good at.

You’re exactly right. We need everybody. My role in integrating and aligning all the different functions is vital for the success of a project. It’s about seeing the value in what we do ourselves. The other thing I would say is, “That is what I would fall into. I was just a communications major.” Just because I do, say, and think that sometimes, I don’t let myself off the hook. I still have to step up, perform, show up, and be a leader. I’m not perfect.

I love that. Accept your imperfections because you’re still making a great contribution. That’s the bottom line.

Of course, we are. Nobody’s perfect. In spite of everything, still do what you need to do.

Leadership Challenges In Today’s Business World

You are working with a number of people and you’ve seen clients while looking at the business optics of today and into the future. What are some of the challenges that people are facing most in the world regarding leadership or business operations?

For leadership, people are tired and burnt out. I hear it every single day. They’re trying their best. They’re tired and burnt out. The thing I think people can do, and this is so hard, is take care of themselves. It’s so important. We de-prioritize ourselves so much. Everybody does it, especially women. Everybody comes first. Who are we when we are burnt out and tired? We’re cranky and short. We don’t make good decisions. We hurt relationships. We’re not good leaders.

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We might even jeopardize the people we think we’re helping. I think about that airplane example. When you’re with someone else who needs help, you have to put your oxygen mask on first. If you don’t, you die and they die too.

It’s exactly true. The great leaders I know, and I’m very blessed to know quite a few, do this well. It’s amazing. You think, “How can you do that?” They say, “I just do it. It’s important.” It’s a lesson in leadership to set those boundaries for yourself and take it. When we do that, other people respect them.

Seasons Leadership Podcast: What Listeners Can Expect

They see a model and an example of how to succeed. If they don’t see that, they don’t know what’s possible. They’re on the treadmill and can’t get off either. We certainly have to model that as well. I want to ask you about your podcast, Seasons Leadership. Tell us about that. Who’s on it? Who should listen? What will they gain from listening?

Thank you very much, Dr. Karen. Seasons Leadership is a podcast Debbie and I have done for years. We call ourselves accidental podcasters because we got into it through somebody else. We started having fun and kept doing it. We’re still learning but it’s for anybody who is a leader. We believe we are all leaders at some point in our lives. It’s not a positional title but we’re leaders for our families, groups, and communities.

What we do is talk about leadership excellence and what that looks like. We have different guests from different fields and perspectives. A leader is not the same. There are as many leader examples as there are people who are leaders. We want to show people that you don’t have to be a cookie-cutter mold to be a leader. You can be who you are. We’ve got plenty of examples of that.

I’ll direct people to check out Seasons Leadership and tap into some of the leadership excellence that we’re talking about. Susan, how can people reach you and get a hold of you?

One of the best places is through our website, which is SeasonsLeadership.com, or through our Patreon site. If you look at Patreon, look at Seasons Leadership and that comes up. Our podcast is on Spotify, Apple, and YouTube. We’re also on LinkedIn, too.

Words Of Wisdom For Corporate Leaders

They can look you up through your website, on LinkedIn, and through the podcast hosting channels. They can access the podcast there as well. Susan, you’ve shared a lot of deep wisdom with the community already that comes from big business and small business as well. What additional words of wisdom do you want to leave for my community of corporate business executives and leaders?

I appreciate what leaders are doing. We need excellent leaders because they will change the world for the better. If leaders can lead with humility, love, and service, the world will be better.

Amen to that part. Humility, love, and service. I’m a proponent of all three of those. Thank you so much, Susan, for being with me. I appreciate it, and for sharing your love, humility, and service even with the community.

Thank you.

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As we close out our episode, I’d like to share a Bible verse that comes from Proverbs 18:15, which says, “The heart of the prudent acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge.” Everything we’ve been talking about in this episode is about how to get additional knowledge and also wisdom, which is that knowledge applied, and to go outside of yourself sometimes to get it, whether it be your board of advisors, a coach, a mentor, a consultant that you might bring in, or people on your team. We are doing this work together, collaboratively, and in co-creation. All the best to you as you pursue excellence in leadership. Thanks for being here. We’ll see you next time.

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Spirit Wings Kids Foundation: Transforming Lives In Uganda

I want to share some important insights with you about Spirit Wings Kids Foundation, a 501(c)(3) organization that’s doing wonders across the globe, especially in Uganda. I have with me Donna Johnson, the Founder of Spirit Wings Kids and a member of the board. She’s going to tell us about the permaculture farm they started. Donna, tell us all about it.

Thank you, Dr. Karen. For decades, we’ve been supporting the Orphanage and Family Network in Uganda. In 2018, my son was a permaculturist. We had acres that we dedicated to his planting. It was amazing. He also taught them how to do permaculture. It’s flourishing. During the pandemic, it saved lives. Two hundred and three families were fed during the pandemic. It’s such a miracle that God called us to plant that garden at the time that we did.

Thank you so much for your work in Uganda. A couple of other things I want people to know. A permaculture farm is self-contained in many ways, depending on how they’re growing the crops. You don’t have to use pest control. You don’t need fertilizer. It’s a very sustainable way to provide food for the community. That’s a blessing. If you want to be part of this wonderful work, 100% of all of your donations go to the people in Uganda to help feed them and their families. Go to SWKids.Foundation and give. Make a difference in the world. Thank you for doing so.

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I want to tell you a little bit about Spirit Wings Kids Foundation, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization that provides profound services for orphans, widows, and families across the globe in many ways, especially in the country of Uganda. I’m speaking with Donna Johnson, who is the Founder of Spirit Wings Kids and also a board member. Donna, tell us about some examples of the profound work you’re doing in Uganda.

Thank you, Dr. Karen. We were there and it was incredible. It’s more than an orphanage. We have a soccer academy that keeps the boys off the street. We have a widow’s program that matches them with children. It’s a thriving network of entrepreneurs. It’s been such a meaningful blessing to see the work we’re doing there.

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What I love about what you said is you’re talking about their whole lives. You’re creating families between the widows and the children. You’re also making sure they have recreation and something to do with the soccer academy. You’re looking at the job situation and the entrepreneurial aspect. As a businesswoman yourself who’s very successful, you’re right in line with being able to make that difference. Thank you so much for the difference you’re making. I’m inviting everyone who’s reading to go to SWKids.Foundation and donate. A hundred percent of everything you donate goes to those people who are in need and who are receiving those services. Thank you so much for donating. Donna, thank you for this ministry.

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Victorious Family: Reaching Millions And Transforming Families

I’m here with Terence Chatmon, who is the President and CEO of Victorious Family and also the author of Do Your Children Believe?. Victorious Family has a goal of reaching 9.2 million families by 2030. Terence, tell us, how far along are you on that goal?

We’re very excited. We reached 133,800 families. We’re right around the 400,000 family mark toward our 9.2 million goal in the second year.

That is very exciting news. I know there are many new initiatives helping you to reach even more families. What’s new in the ministry?

What’s exciting is that on December 7th, 2023, we had a national newspaper cover, Victorious Family, that went throughout the country. That exposed us to over 30 million families in the US. From that, we’ve had a great deal of responses. One of those is a new partnership we’re forming with Hampton University to come alongside them and work in eight counties in the Hampton Roads area. We’re really excited about that. Millions of families will be exposed to what it looks like to have a family transformation taking place in your home.

That’s phenomenal. How can people reach you and your weekly resource that you have as well?

They can reach us at VictoriousFamily.org. Our resources are there. We’re excited because we have a brand new resource that came out. It’s our weekly rhythms guide. It gives parents and individuals a day-to-day rhythm in how they might walk in Christ. We encourage them to get a copy of our weekly rhythms guide for parents and individuals.

Thank you so much, Terence. I’m so glad that you’re here with me. Audience, please go to VictoriousFamily.org, donate to the ministry, get the weekly rhythms guide, and see what else is new in the ministry. See you next time.

 

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About Susan Ireland

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Susan Ireland has deep experience in the aerospace industry and business operations. As an ICF-certified professional coach, Susan works with executives, entrepreneurs and leaders at all levels to enhance leadership and business acumen, encourage self-discovery and turn challenges into positive results. Her thought-provoking and creative approach inspires enduring, transformative change.

 

May 7, 2024

The State of The Business Address: Why and How? (Episode # 475)

Does your company conduct a State of the Business Address? In this episode, Dr. Karen provides insights on the reasons to periodically conduct this important company meeting. When you regularly inform your workforce about successes, challenges, and examples of living the company values, you engage the workforce, reinforce the culture, increase retention, and reduce fear, anxiety, and destructive rumors.

Learn how to use The State of the Business Address to transform and inspire your company both for now and the future.

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